S4E9224 October 2021

S4E92: Rewilding Organisations & Minimal Interference approach to change with Jo Lucas

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S4E92

S4E92: Rewilding Organisations & Minimal Interference approach to change with Jo Lucas

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In this episode, Dale and Val catch up with Jo Lucas and approach change and organisations in a fascinating and intriguing podcast. Change is amongst us all and how we, therefore, improve or create the right motive for change will take more than formal networks. Jo talks about her background and her mission to leverage the study of natural systems and apply them to real-world problems. Jo dives into what she calls the 'shadow organisation where formal networks are not the only way projects operate. Jo draws inspiration from natural systems and explains how this occurs within the organisation. To improve, grow and change it may be useful to decide how we use language and how we rewild projects by developing a relationship-based approach. Jo is the director of Co.Cre8 a consultancy, which brings the visionary together with the practical. Jo lead from within project organisations focussing as much on context and relationships, as on process and governance to create functioning networks that deliver. I bring systems thinking to the human networks which build up around large infrastructure projects and is a curious seeker of new ways of shaping them, that is more in harmony with the natural world. Jo also leads Ego to Eco, an initiative to connect together across organisational and institutional boundaries supporting our industry in these ecologically and socially stretched times to find new ways of working together. Jo has over 20 years of experience in implementing change within complex and ambiguous environments, including HS2, TfL, CITB, UCL, BAA, ODA, World Food Programme and Network Rail. She chartered as a civil/structural engineer in Australia before transitioning into implementing change on major infrastructure projects in London. You can check out the Ego to Eco story here For more information, blogs or to support our charities visit www.projectchatterpodcast.com If you'd like to sponsor the podcast get in touch via our website. You can also leave us a voice message via our anchor page and let us know if there's something or someone specific that you would like on the podcast. Proudly sponsored by PlanAcademy.com JustDo.com InEight.com Stay safe, be disruptive and have fun doing it!

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Jo Lucas

Director, Networks at Co.Cre8 Ltd

Jo has over 20 years of experience in delivering change within and between large and complex organisations, including TfL, HS2 Ltd., UCL, BAA, ODA and Network Rail. She started her career as a civil/structural engineer with Arup building bridges and likes to see the work she now does as building bridges of a different kind; those between teams and organisations. Jo challenges traditional thinking and believes in the power of the human mycelium to collectively meet the urgency of our times. Alongside her consultancy work at Co.Cre8, she leads Ego to Eco, a not-for-profit collaboration with artist, Wolfgang Buttress to give voice and agency to the hidden voices within our project networks. The ambition is to create an ever evolving digital forest on a gaming platform, where the industry can come together across traditional boundaries to take collective action. Jo and her husband built a RIBA award winning house from rusty steel using modern methods of construction and she gave a TEDx talk on Superheroes and Sidekicks on how to work within complex networks.

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